Is it just the principle of it or do you believe the prisoners are innocent?
I know a large number of the people inside are innocent. When I first went down there I somewhat took the government on faith when they said everybody had been captured on the battlefield of Afghanistan. Of the 60 odd people that I've met in Guantanamo and outside who have been at Guantanamo I think I could only identify 4, maybe 5 who were ever on any battlefield in Afghanistan. And whether them fighting the Northern Alliance was somehow a crime against America is a good question, but the others weren't. You know I could go down the list of innocent people in Guantanamo and some of them are innocent. It's just terrible. Muhammad El Gurenni, a 14-year-old child who was never in Afghanistan until the Americans took him there and he's no more a terrorist than you and I. And they say after five years, number one they don't know how old he is, they can't even figure that out, they only need to get a birth certificate, but number two they say that in 1998 he was in the London cell of Al-Qaeda, which was rubbish he was 11 years old at the time and he'd never left Saudi Arabia. And yet they won't let him have a trial so he's still in Guantanamo today. And I can list dozens and dozens of people like that but it's outrageous what went on.