I have recently been diagnosed with aspergers, although I don't really think I meat the DSM criteria of the 'profound' inability to interatct with people. Perhaps I am not profound because I have been so successful in learning to deal with other people.

I fell in love with a girl who I now realize has BPD. She fits the DSM criteria precisely.

Sadly, her life is almost over - I am sure she will commit suicide soon. She has started to physically (and mentally) abuse me. It is so sad. Deep down she is really a beautiful person. If anyone has been in my situation, they would understand. There is nothing I can do.

I just wish there was something I could do to help her. Why am I trapped between the jaws of these two insidious conditions?

Hello. Please lit some life in this topic.
I have aspergers and used to be in loved with an borderline girl who now is dead.
I really identified alot, I saw me in her and she said the same.
I want to know why borderline and aspergers, one an disorder and the other an syndrome
are so similiar.

Also, I can correct the previous poster. Aspergers can lead to lack of self-identitty
and in an personality and mind that changes each day.
I have become less dynamic and gotten less self-identity with age how ever.
Manipulation is also common with people with aspergers especially we who manage to function socially, if you only look at those with aspergers that can't work then I dont know.
My real life experience of other fellows with aspergers have lead me to the conclusion
that we manipulative if we learn any social skill because social skill are just skills for us,
we need control so we want to control other people.
The relationships problems with both AS and BPD and how we have selective close inner circles of friends are similar.
Also we talk alot and are egocentic and are very controlling personalities.
The most attractive part with borderline is dislike normal people.
Just to make a point, you are not the "standard" and we are not sick because we are not normal.
We are smarter than you guys, it's we who should live on.
If only Sara lived,if only it would give her back then I could do without so many of you neurotypicals.
No offence, I just need to say it.

Also...how about the converse? Could my child be Borderline Personality Disorder and not Aspergers? That is to say, is it possible for a teenager to manifest symptoms of Borderline?

Please let me know what you have found out. I, also a father, have been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder while my son several months ago, was diagnosed with Aspergers. I see overlapping symptoms and basically see "me" in him and remember feeling his pain when I was growing up...and even today.

I understand that psychiatrists are not generally able to recognize Asperger's Syndrome in previously undiagnosed adults. They persistently miss the condition (at a rate of about 80 percent I believe),and a consequent is often misdiagnoses. Borderline Personality Disorder is one condition associated with such misdiagnoses.

Often with Borderline Personality Disorder there can be some confusion of 'self' and for unwary psychiatrists it is easy to confuse semantic-pragmatic communication impairments and their implications (i.e. difficulty relating abstract-non tangible concepts such as emotional/mood states, odd communication technique that is apparently articulate but often circumlocutory, unwillingness to make statements of certitude where there is any logical doubt as to the accuracy or truth of the statement at issue, and uncertainty around communication that appears unambiguous to people not characterized by Asperger's syndrome) as symptoms of a 'lack of consistent sense of self'.

Other complications abound; over-compensatory attempts to read non-verbal language can be mis-interpreted as 'ove- sensitivity to non-verbal language' and 'social paranoia', both traits often predicted of someone suffering Borderline Personality Disorder.

Communication and recall disparities between a person with asperger's syndrome and a person without, and a failure of usually functional interview techniques to accommodate the Asperger's Syndrome specific needs arising from this disparity, can lead to highly inaccurate and non-representative case-histories. Due to inexperience and lack of awareness, this can be misinterpreted by the physician as evidence of deception, a trait often predicted of persons with Borderline Personality Disorder.

Arguably, once someone has been pegged with Borderline Personality Disorder, it can easily become an intractable diagnosis due to the deceptive and manipulative traits very often predicted of such a person.

Arguably there is some apparent mythologizing about the condition including beliefs that such a person draws physicians into a web of very convincing and compelling deception and manipulation. It's very easy therefore to explain away anything that does not actually fit the diagnoses, as being the result of highly skilled attempts at manipulation and deception.

Borderline Personality Disorder is to an extent a rather controversial diagnoses. If you do not fit predicted patterns that are central to the condition (marked pattern of intense chaotic relationships, frantic attempts to avoid being alone, perceptions of people as being all bad or all good that change in accordance with one's last interaction with the person, a belief that spatial distance effects the love or affection between two people), then a diagnoses of Borderline Personality Disorder seems a very ill fit and might be something that ought to questioned, particularly in light of a positive diagnoses of Asperger's Syndrome in one's immediate/very close consanguineous (blood) relative.